One of the difficulties at Harvard is that we have not given as much of our effort to building administration perhaps as we should have.

The administrative officers at Harvard are chiefly the deans of the faculties--and these people are all professors.

They are faculty members.

We don't have a separate group of administrative officers that are some different kind of species.

I think we have counted on these deans--the deans of students, masters in houses, tutors, members of senior common rooms--somehow to keep a warm relationship between authority in the institution and the students.

We probably have not been as imaginative as we should have been in seeing where this is not functioning as fully, as strongly as it ideally ought to.

SPIVAK: Dr. Pusey, you've come in for criticism too because you didn't ask for faculty support before you called in the police. Why didn't you?

PUSEY: That particular decision was taken in the hours following the occupation itself.

We had been anticipating that some such incident might occur for almost a year, and from the time I've been president the group to which I've turned directly for advice and consultation in these matters is what I call this council of deans.

They are the heads of the various faculties of the university as I just said, they are all members of the faculty, and I had, assumed that in talking with them and getting their views I was getting access to faculty opinion and also, to a degree, student opinion.

WINTHROP: Did they all favor the takeover, Dr. Pusey?

PUSEY: During the course of the hours of discussion there were a number, of different opinions expressed as to what we should do. This was their responsibility, to try to propose the different alternatives and to discuss them and make the cases for them.

In the end, I think it's quite clear that there was no dissenting opinion about the decision when it was finally taken.

SPIVAK: Dr. Pusey, there are some who feel that Harvard University should forget all the charges against the students who occupied University Hall. How do you feel about that?

PUSEY: I don't see how the faculty can possibly do that. I think that this was a direct threat to the operation of the university, particularly to the Faculty of Arts and Sciences, to its properly constituted officers, and I think that if the faculty were not to consider that a serious matter -- it would be a serious matter!