SF: That's the thing. It's not like we're playing insane person's music.

JN: I'm a spectator for them most of the time, and there are always incredibly positive reactions. It's very accessible music, mainly because it's so personal and expressive.

DH: I think a lot of people have never really thought to look for it. A number people who've come to our shows, say afterwards, "I've never heard anything like that, but I really like it."

SF: A lot of people think "new music" and they think "weird, abrasive music." For a long time, a lot of composers had the idea that "if the public likes it, we must be doing something wrong." [A long discussion on Dada and composer Philip Glass ensues]

SF: In some ways, we're trying to go against the grain of most bands. We're not commercially geared in any sense. I can't think of any other band today that only exists live. With any other band, you can just buy their album, and there's this expectation that are their concert they'll be recreating this perfect quintessence of what's represented on the album.

JN: I'm sure that there are other bands

that only exist when they're live, but you never hear about them. It's interesting that you don't hear about bands unless they put out albums and enter the commercial realm.

HB: There's a personality factor too. In the previous show, David Horn proceeded to play a flute line that he plays frequently, and Shawn proceeded to attack him with his "alien simulator"--his pitch shifter--and that's something you can't get across unless you're there.