H: They are both working on it.

P: What's your off-hand reaction on that, Bob? I do not want them, though, to go in and get the hell kicked [unintelligible].

H: There's no question, and we've really got to work at that.

P: Yep. [Unintelligible]

H: Ya, but I think--I'm not sure--if you can't get the controlled nonpolitical event, then I think it is better to do a political even [unintelligible].

P: For example--now the worse thing [unintelligible] is to go to anything that has to do with the arts.

H: Ya, see that--it was [unintelligible] Julie giving that time to the Museum in Jacksonville.

P: The arts you know--they're Jews, they're left wing--in other words, stay away.

P: Make a point.

H: Sure.

P: Middle America--put that word out--Middle America-type of people [unintelligible], auxiliary, [unintelligible]. Why the hell doesn't Parker get that kind of thing going? Most of his things are elite groups except, I mean, do the cancer thing--may be nice for Tricia to go up--ride a bus for two hours--do some of that park in Oklahoma--but my view is, Bob, relate it to Middle America and not the elitist [unintelligible]. Do you agree?

H: Yep. Sure do.

P: I'm not complaining. I think they are doing a hell of a job. The kids are willing--

H: They really are, but she can improve.

P: There again, Tricia had a very good thought on this, but let's do Middle America.