P: When you get in--when you get in [unintelligible] people, say, "Look the problem is that this will open the whole, the whole Bay of Pigs thing, and the president just feels that ah, without going into the details--don't don't lie to them to the extent to say there is no involvement, but just say this is a comedy of errors, without getting into it, the president believes that it is going to open the whole Bay of Pigs thing up again. And, ah, because these people are plugging for [unintelligible] and that they should call the FBI in and [unintelligible] don't go any further into this case period!

P: [Inaudible] our cause--

H: Get more done for our cause by the opposition than by us.

P: Well, can you get it done?

H: I think so.

P: [Unintelligible] moves [unintelligible] election [unintelligible] said it in its lead editorial today. Another "McGovern's got to change his position." That that would be a good thing, that's constructive. Ah, the white wash for change.

P: [Unintelligible] urging him to do so--say that is perfectly all right?

H: Cause then they are saying--on the other hand--that he were not so smart. We have to admire the progress he's made on the basis of the position he's taken and maybe he's right and we're wrong.

P: [Inaudible] I just, ha ha.

P: [Unintelligible] I spend an hour--whatever it was--45 minutes or so with television executives [unintelligible] all in and outs [unintelligible]. "Look, we have no right to ask the president anything [unintelligible] biased." [Unintelligible] says I'm going to raise hell with the networks. And look, you've just not got to let Klein ever set up a meeting again. He just doesn't have his head screwed on. You know what I mean. He just opens it up and sits there with eggs on his face. He's just not our guy at all is he?

H: No.

P: Absolutely, totally, unorganized.

H: He's a very nice guy.

P: People love him, but damn is he organized.

H: But, I don't think you have to be there until Tuesday.