SHEPPARD: But I don't have any inherent basis for expecting to receive a fair hearing the second time if I didn't receive one the first time. The only recourse I would have in fairness would be to convince other people that there was something wrong with the procedure followed and I would need evidence to convince them of that.

WILSON: The community is not going to decide on your case. This Committee will decide. Nobody else.

SHEPPARD: Yeah. but what I'm saying is that the only recourse I would have is to try to convince people to do something about it if I didn't receive a fair hearing.

WILSON: Well, they have a case. But it seems to me there's simply no grounds for authorizing someone other than the Committee to make a recording of the proceedings to remain in effect in their possession unless we get instructions from the Committee authorizing us to deal, when the time comes, in laying out for us the conditions under which it should be done. If Professor Porte does not want to have a recording made of his statements by a third party, and that is my view, then it seems to me we ought to reschedule the hearing, go back to the Committee with the whole issue of recordings before them, and get a carefully worked out procedure rather than improvising something here. Anything we worked out here would be improvised, and I suspect that both parties would at some point come to regret it, because it wouldn't take into account everyone's interests. My proposal is that we reschedule the hearings for a mutually convenient time that can be found and in the interim we get instructions from the full Committee as to the use of student tape recorders.

SHEPPARD: Could you explain, or could anyone explain, the reason for being afraid to have people know what you said at the hearing?

WILSON: It's hard to answer that. The issue is not whether we're afraid to have people know what was said. We are trying to protect what to us is...Do you have the tape recorder on now?

SHEPPARD: Yes.

PORTE: Yes. he does.

[Long pause.]

PORTE: I don't see how we can accept a discussion of the propriety or impropriety or of the desirability or the undesirability of having a tape recording made by the student, while the student has a tape recorder going.

WILSON: I wasn't aware it was on. I have nothing further to say.

SHEPPARD: But we haven't begun the hearing.

PORTE: I didn't authorize your recording my voice. We were discussing the question of using the recorder.

SHEPPARD: I very publicly turned it on.

[At this point, Wilson got up to leave.]

PORTE: We'll reschedule the hearing and bring the matter before the full Committee.

[Everyone then left the hearing room.]