"We can and will add security issues discussions to the initial proctor meetings," she said, "but that alone would, I think, constitute a minimal and in the end marginally effective response."

Nathans expounded on Young's comments, saying that student exhaustion and information overload during the initial proctor meetings would mean that students would "remember relatively little of what happens at those meetings."

In another e-mail message last night, Nathans said that they have no yet reached any decision about having officers attend the proctor meetings.

"Almost certainly, HUPD cannot provide 62 officers to attend 62 proctor meetings, so it is unlikely that officers will be present at each of the initial entry meetings," she said.

But Haynes said that Sgt. Larry Fennelly had assured her earlier that providing officers for the proctor meetings would not be a problem--the officers would simply move between meetings, of which their lessons would only be a part.

In addition, even though Nathans said that at the very least the security classes during proctor meetings would be implemented, Johnson said he has not heard anything about the classes.

In fact, Johnson said he was working under the impression that he would have only one Saturday during Orientation Week--not time during proctor meetings--to have a nonmandatory assembly on security measures.

"I would like it to be mandatory," Johnson said on Monday.

"We're going to have to come up with a dynamite presentation to reach the kids, but we'll take what we can get," he said.

Council members say that students probably wouldn't come to an optional student seminar. Furthermore, those who did come wouldn't be as receptive, they said.

"[The classes are] necessary as opposed to the large assembly where people would just doze off," Evangelista said. "[Under the proposal] the police officer would talk to the students directly."

Johnson said the HUPD wanted to have the meeting at least on a weekday, when students "are focused," but that has not been arranged either.

"[Orientation Week] is a very tough time frame on the their schedule," Johnson said.

Still, Nathans said that the Orientation Week schedule is still open. "No decisions have yet been made about programming for Fall 1995, nor is the orientation schedule yet scheduled," she said.

But with the security classes proposed to be concurrent with proctor meetings, Haynes said she did not think there would be a problem with scheduling.