fM: The whole idea of an encyclopedic set of 70s reference packaged to surprise people in the middle of the song is just totally wrong?

Rob: That kind of brothers me actually. There's a vast majority of people our age who don't listen to any new music. I'll be at a party and they'll pull on Blondie records, just `cause it's funny, and nobody has any new music they like at all. I really don't want to encourage that in any way. I don't look at our music as a catalog of what has already happened at all.

Andrew: I don't think there's anything new. I think we're just retreading a lot of stuff.

Rob: To set the scene, we just played at the Middle East Cafe, on a Sunday night, and we're in this van, in our little van that we rented to get around for a week, and I'm crouched over the cooler.. My name is Rob.

Evan: He'll be doing most of the talking tonight.

Rob: I'll be doing most cooler between driver's seat and passenger seat and it's cozy.

fM: What do you listen to? You've got this van driving from show to show every day--what tapes get a lot of play in the Eggmobile right now?

Andrew: Out tape deck stopped working, but mostly we listened to old music , trying to figure out how we can rip it off.

fM: Seriously!

Andrew: I'm really glad Steve hare is calling our bluff, because I want a journalist to get on our case and encourage us to think. And we just have these snide answers. We all listen to whatever we can get our hands on that interests us. I guess everyone who's listening to music has a collection of interests they're pursuing, ideas that they look for, different bands that might be attacking these ideas in different ways... and we all have totally different ideas of what bands are doing creative things.

fM: The trombone thing. Do we know of any other bands that try and integrate a trombone?

Rob: We're definitely on the first: people have been incorporating brass instruments since--

fM: Not a horn section, just a trombone.

Andrew: Pink Floyd.

fM: Really? Who else?