"What goes on at the clubs is "the same as a rooming group of guys who get drunk and act crass," says William C. Parsons '89, a former member of the the Porcellian Club.

"We don't have bedrooms," says Ian M. Huschle '88, former president of the Fly Club.

Club members also say that being in a club does not give one a network for connections. They say the clubs are no different in this respect from any other Harvard organization.

"Maybe 30 years ago there was a network, but I have yet to witness it," says Stewart. He says so few men belong and those who do spend so little time there that, at least at his club, involvement does not constitute an advantage.

Members also say that the graduate members are usually not very involved in the clubs and don't really help members finds jobs. "The graduate members stop by from time to time," says one student who graduated last year. But he adds, "You don't get to know them."

And Huschle says the rumor that the club libraries are an important part of club life is untrue.

"The volumes there can all be found in the libraries of the University," Huschle says.

"The claim that women are denied access to any kind of valuable libraries is a fallacy," says Zubrensky, adding that the books are mainly those left behind by students when they graduate.

All club members contacted said the libraries were of little importance, many saying they had never used a book there. One member called them "wallcovering."

The final clubs developed from fraternities to eating clubs at the end of the 19th century and later became social organizations after World War II. Although most clubs still serve meals, most members say they eat at them a few times at most. Called final clubs to distinguish them from the waiting clubs that once catered to the sophmores and juniors but no longer exist, the nine all-male social clubs were governed by rules developed in the 1920s until the University severed ties with them four years ago.

While Schkolnick complaint hinges on her contention that she does not have access to the libraries, dining hall services and educational and professonial networks offered by the clubs, she also points to evidence of continued ties between the College and clubs.

Schkolnick says the University still awards the Burton Memorial Scholarship, which requires its recipients to be either a member of the sect of Saint John the Evangelist or the Fly Club. Since the scholarship's trustees are dead, the money is now given out by the College itself.

Although it has not been awarded for many years, the scholarship has not been abolished, says Schkolnick, and constitutes a continuing tie. But Dean of the College L. Fred Jewett '57, a member of the all-male Somerset Club located in Boston, says the stipulations of many Harvard scholarships would not be accepted by the University today, although they were not considered to be offensive when they were accepted.

If a Harvard scholarship that singles out final club members as recipients is still awarded, Jewett says it would not be at the expense of others.

"As long as we are able to deal with all the people who have need, we haven't felt we have to cancel awards that were once given in good faith," says Jewett. Jewett says it was "my understanding" that there are "not very many ties" between the University and the clubs.