Mann said that while the faculty-student ratio is half of what it was three years ago (10 to 1 as opposed to 5 to 1), "the ratio will improve next year when we increase the faculty to catch up with the increased number of students."

"And anyway, 5 to 1 is an economically unlivable ratio by any financial standard today," Mann added. "Before, the Department was sustained by many intricate things which couldn't stand the test of time. We had to face up to certain realities."

Mann responded to Isaac's criticism of the curriculum by saying, "until the conclusion of this case, it has been very difficult for me to put forth my own ideas on curricular change." Still, he said, he has first had to "improve courses within the existing curriculum that had not been of very high quality."

"Now I am going to look at the past for ideas--for instance there are some changes proposed by Martin Meyer son and William Alonson when they were here six or seven years ago that were turned down which we want to reevaluate. Rapid change for its own sake is pointless."

Meyerson, who reviewed the Department in 1970, is currently president of the University of Pennsylvania while Alonson is a planning professor at the University of California at Berkeley.

One unresolved question in the aftermath of the Corporation's decision Wednesday is where Isaac's and Vigier, the two remaining professors, fit into the future of the Design School.

Kilbridge defers the question to Mann as Department Chairman, and Mann in turn leaves it up to the professors to make their own decision.

"Much of the basis for the grievances occurred before I arrived on the scene in 1970," he said yesterday. "I've attained second-hand knowledge from both sides of what the situation in the Department was like, and I still don't know exactly what the truth is."

"For the future, I welcome Professors Isaac's and Vigier back into more active participation in the Department. They must make the first move when they feel it's appropriate, though. Frankly, it's up to them," Mann said.

Looking at the Department's overall condition. Mann asserts that it "has advanced very sharply in the past year and a half. We've been bringing in faculty from outside, not necessarily from an inbred group. We're emphasizing youth and we're taking about half our new faculty with doctoral training in planning and half with advanced training in other fields such as political science, economics and sociology. We're on the way up," he said