At an informal meeting with students at Dunster House last night, Dorfman discussed the propriety of a regular Faculty vote on withdrawal with Mare J. Roberts, teaching fellow in Economics and Social Studies, who wants the vote taken at the meeting.

"Is the urgency of speaking out about Vietnam so important that we will push Harvard out into the public fray?" Dorfman asked.

Roberts called the convocation idea "an elaborate charade," which would have the same "substantive political impact" as a regular vote. He added that the avoidance of a regular Faculty vote would, at the same time, "blunt the motion's moral thrust" and act as "a slap at student protest."

He stated that "We, the Faculty, demand, in these extraordinary times, to take a stand on the war." Adding that the University must stand for something, he said that "it is time for the Faculty to take moral leadership."

George B. Kistiakowsky, Abbott and James Lawrence Professor of Chemistry, said he had drafted an amendment to the motion which called for "the fastest possible withdrawal"- instead of "immediate withdrawal." But this reportedly was unsatisfactory to both liberals and conservatives, and be will not present the amendment.