Lanzmann interviews Dr. Franz Grassler, former Nazi and deputy director of the Warsaw ghetto. He films the scene from outside Grassler's home, without his subject's knowledge.
So it was clear even then...
No! Extermination wasn't clear. Now we see the result.
Extermination isn't so simple. One step was taken, then another, and another, and another...
Yes.
But to understand the process, one must...
I repeat: extermination did not take place in the ghetto, not at first. Only with the evacuations...
Evacuations?
The evacuations to Treblinka. The ghetto could have been wiped out with weapons, as was finally done after the rebellion. After I'd left. But at the start... Mr. Lanzmann, this is getting us nowhere. We're reaching no new conclusions.
I don't think we can.
I didn't know then what I know now.
You weren't a nonentity.
But I was!
You were important.
You overestimate my role.
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