"Hello... Well, I'm just fine, Joe! Yesair!...Well, thanks, Joe. I think it went fine in Michigan...Harrisburg? Tomorrow? Fine, Joe. Well, that's great...give you a call in the morning...Fine, Joe. Goodbye."

Senator Hubert H. Humphrey (D-Minn.) dialed his scheduler. Ursula Culver, and told her to make sure that he called Joe Beirne. President of the Communications Workers of America, the next morning; that, it at all possible, he wanted to make an appearance on behalf of Senator George S. McGovern (D.S.D.) at the AFL-CIO dinner that evening.

Culver, who is known as one of the best schedulers on Capital Hill, had greeted us warmly upon our arrival at Senator Humphrey's office two weeks ago. During our 90-minute wait. Culver virtually ignored us, as she ushered in two black women from the Chicago Machine, who had entered the office fifteen minutes after we did. She apologized for Senator, nothing that an emergency" had arisen on the floor of the Senate.

Humphrey, whose deeply lined face makes him look markedly older than be does on television, walked across his office and sat down on the couch. His appearance was surprising--a sizeable paunch, bloodshot eyes, and hair, which he no longer dyes, the grey hair of an old man.

After he sat down, Humphrey began to discuss the upcoming campaign. From all appearances, Humphrey will go all out on behalf of the McGovern candidacy.

"I have about 20 cities that I'm going to for Mr. McGovern. That was Joe Beirne on the phone just now. He was complimenting me on my visit to Michigan. I'm going to Wisconsin. Tomorrow he wants me to go to Pennsylvania. Of course in Minnesota. I took McGovern all around and look him to the AFL-CIO meeting, look him over to the President of our AFL-CIO and we set up a state committee. I introduced him to all of the audiences there and gave him active support.

"I am going to California, Ohio, Michigan Illinois, New York, New Jersey, Masschusetts--these are just a few of the states in which I'll be campaigning for Senator McGovern." In spite of the bitter contests he's seen involved with in the last four years, Humphrey has not backed off from what he considers to be the most important principle in party politics when he talks about that principle, it's like a man affirming his belief in religion.

"Honestly, I have to say that George was not that active for me. But I think the word "loyalty" is a very valuable word, and I hope that young people remember it."

Humphrey seems to put his deepest feelings behind his belief in the principles of unity within the Democratic Party, noting that, while he and George McGovern have honest differences, he has no bitterness towards the South Dakota Senator. Although he considers victory in November a "highly questionable" proposition. Humphrey cited several factors in George McGovern's favor, advantages which he himself did not enjoy in 1968.

"First of all, I'd just gotten out of the convention on August 30th. While George had problems from the 15th of July up til now, he had time to get mailings out, to pick state coordinators, to set up labor committees, and to prepare his media--I hadn't done any media by this time. We came out of the convention a million dollars in debt.

"Remember, in 1968, the political environment in which we had to operate--the Tet Offensive. Dr. Martin Luther King's assassination. Bobby Kennedy's assassination, the McCarthy-Kennedy battles. Johnson dropping out of the race, the riots at the Democratic Convention--I had to campaign in that atmosphere.

"George doesn't have these problems this year. There isn't the harassment in the streets, not only for Mr. McGovern but for anybody. It's different political environment."

Humphrey suggested that the office of the Vice-Presidency was "some what constricting" in how he was able to campaign for the Presidency. Referring to the position as being

Standing in shirtsleeves at his paper cluttered desk, Senator Thomas F. Eagleton (D-Mo) managed a smile as two reporters entered his office. Two youthful bellbortom-cald aides, followed and took seats directly behind the interviewers.

Eagleton appeared tired and worn. The exuberant smile of Miami Beach was gone--it was replaced by a forced upturning of the mouth. His deeply set eyes held a dour, almost mournful image, and his face was noticable taut and lacking in expression.