Ten students who seek "to give a more balanced presentation of the Vietnam situation and to present reasons for a strong American policy in Southeast Asia" will petition Monday for University approval.

Another Vietnam Group, the May Second Movement, held its fourth Yard demonstration yesterday afternoon. At the rally, an independent proposal to form an Ad Hoc Committee to End All Ad Hoc Committees was advanced.

"With facts and a reasonable manner," the November Ninth Committee hopes to show that America should strongly support an "independent nationalist movement and should resist Communist imperialism in Southeast Asia," according to the club's proposed constitution.

November 9, 1956, was the date of a peasant uprising in North Vietnam, according to Brian J.H. Lederer '67, vice-president of the club. It symbolizes the group's belief that nationalism and a leader without outside affiliations are the forces which will stabilize the Vietnamese government.

Paul R. deRensis '66 is President of the November Ninth committee. Henry M. Kissinger '50, professor of Government and Joseph Cooper '55, assistant professor of Government, have agreed to advise the group, according to Lederer.

The November Ninth members foel that when the facts are objectively examined, the interests of the United States and South Vietnam should dovetail, and that it is the United States' responsibility to hold off the Viet Cong until a nationalist leader can stabilize a viable government.

The club originally called itself the May Fourth Committee but changed its name because the members view their role as more than refutation of the May Second Committee's "selective presentation of history," Lederer said. As a non-partisan group, it plans to study history without preformulated opinion, be added.

There will be only selective recruitment of additional members, according to Lederer. To assure a unified presentation, policy decisions will be made only on the basis of a two-thirds majority.

The May Second Movement addressed itself yesterday to necessary land reforms and Dulles' foreign policy in Southeast Asia. The rally attracted 100 students, including a sixable number of hecklers.

A law student, Robert W. Doty, suggested that an "Ad Hoc Committee to End All Ad Hoc Committees" be formed. It might be called the March Second Movement, he suggested, signifing Texas' independence